Tuesday, January 30, 2024

"THE DOMINOES HAVE STARTED TO FALL, GET READY FOR THE CRASH" BY WOLVERINE, 30 JAN

 Bearded PatriotUSA

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1/28/24

Forwarded from Wolverine:

BREAKING: A Hong Kong judge has ordered Evergrande to liquidate.

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The dominoes have started to fall. Get ready for the crash everyone

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Forwarded from Tironianae:

China Evergrande Group’s stock jumping off a cliff as Asian markets begin trading.


China Evergrande ordered to liquidate by Hong Kong court

Jan. 28 – REUTERS

A Hong Kong court on Monday ordered the liquidation of China Evergrande Group, a move likely to send RIPPLES through China’s crumbling financial markets as policymakers scramble to contain the deepening crisis.

MARKET REACTION:

Trading in shares of China Evergrande, China Evergrande New Energy Vehicle Group (0708.HK), opens new tab, and Evergrande Property Services (6666.HK), opens new tab was halted. The benchmark Hang Seng Index (.HSI), opens new tab was up 1.2%.

COMMENTARY:

LANCE JIANG, RESTRUCTURING PARTNER, ASHURST

“The market will pay close attention to what the liquidators can do after being appointed, especially whether they can achieve recognition from any of the three designated PRC courts under the 2021 Arrangement regarding Cooperation on Cross-border Insolvency Cases between the Mainland and the Hong Kong SAR. The liquidators will have very limited powers of enforcement over onshore assets in mainland China if they cannot get such recognition.

“If Evergrande is put into bankruptcy administration by a PRC court, international investors will need to see whether the PRC court-appointed administrator can work with the liquidators appointed by the Hong Kong court to achieve a transparent, cooperative and fair restructuring or liquidation of Evergrande.”

CHRIS BEDDOR, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF CHINA RESEARCH, GAVEKAL DRAGONOMICS, HONG KONG

“Evergrande is a unique case in many respects, but it does underscore that the overall situation for property developers has not meaningfully improved in recent months. In fact, the industry continues to worsen in some ways, such as sales revenue.

“There’s also a fairly clear transmission mechanism for how this impacts the mainland market: homebuyer sentiment. Potential homebuyers are still deeply reluctant to buy presold homes from troubled developers, and we see that reflected in the data.

“This certainly won’t help the sentiment problem.”

FERN WANG, SENIOR RESEARCHER, KT CAPITAL GROUP, HONG KONG

“The ruling should only have limited short-term implications to investor sentiment as it is long in the making. Evergrande’s liquidation ruling should not preclude other troubled property developers from reaching an agreement with their creditors. Developers just need to show that they are willing to work with creditors to come up with a fair and feasible restructuring plan. Sunac, another major troubled developer, managed to reach a restructuring plan with its creditors at the end of last year, showing that it is something doable.

“Investors should look at each developer on a case-by-case basis. Evergrande’s situation is more complicated than other developers as its founder Hui Ka Yan is under arrest and its major subsidiary in China Hengda Real Estate Group is being investigated. The investigation has precluded the company from issuing new debts and limits its ability to reach an agreement with its creditors. It was also reported that Hui is likely to have divorced his wife for separation of assets, making people question his willingness to support the group.

“Recovery hopes are grim given the heavy indebtedness of the company and the often-structural subordinated position of the offshore creditors. Evergrande’s bonds are currently trading at less than 2 cents on a dollar.”

DEREK LAI, GLOBAL INSOLVENCY LEADER, DELOITTE

“Liquidator of holding companies in Hong Kong as shareholders can try to take control of onshore assets by changing legal representatives of the relevant onshore subsidiaries, but it will usually take quite some time to do so even if it is possible.

“The Evergrande case is much more complicated. Even though the group has many assets in mainland China, it is not easy for the offshore liquidators to take direct possession of them.

“In the event of liquidation, the biggest risk for creditors is they may not have high recovery percentage of their debts as compared to the total debts.”

WANG BO, CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER, JURUN CAPITAL, SHANGHAI

“This Evergrande thing has the potential to go either way at this point. The first is whether an offshore liquidation is equivalent to a domestic consolidated bankruptcy. Even if it is equivalent to judicial bankruptcy, I think it is difficult to say whether this workload can be replicated. On the other hand, the most nervous property developers at the moment will definitely be the least qualified ones.”

MARK DONG, CO-FOUNDER AND GENERAL MANAGER, MINORITY ASSET MANAGEMENT, HONG KONG

“The liquidation had been expected, and now it’s confirmed. It has already been priced in.”

CAI HONGFEI, PROPERTY ANALYST, CENTRAL WEALTH SECURITIES

“I think the impact is limited. Evergrande no longer has ability to operate. It cannot solve its own problem, so has no other choice but liquidation. And the boss has been arrested. Evergrande is a special case.”

NICHOLAS CHEN, ANALYST, CREDITSIGHTS, SINGAPORE

“For other troubled Chinese developers, overall market sentiment would undoubtedly be affected, though each company’s restructuring is dependent on myriad of factors…

“Nevertheless, the cases of Evergrande and Jiayuan, which also received a winding up order in May last year, highlight that defaulted developers would need to provide a concrete restructuring plan to the HK courts and they do not have a perpetual runway to do so.

“In terms of regulatory stance, we expect the increasingly supportive policy environment to provide some breathing room for the cash-strapped property sector, though the extent of the breathing room for each developer is likely to vary. We expect the regulatory support to remain bifurcated and biased towards the stronger (mostly state-linked) developers.”

REDMOND WONG, CHIEF CHINA STRATEGIST, SAXO MARKETS, HONG KONG

“For overseas creditors, focus will be on if the liquidator will succeed in its applications for assistance to mainland courts in Shanghai, Shenzhen and Xiamen under the cooperation mechanism established in 2021 and get hold of assets in the mainland. For shareholders of the listed company (of Evergrande) in Hong Kong, the likelihood of getting anything out of the winding up process is very low.”

DAMIEN BOEY, CHIEF MACRO STRATEGIST, BARRENJOEY, SYDNEY

“These issues are well known for some time. The companies that are in trouble are the ones we have known about, so I think the best thing that you can do as a policymaker with the stated policy intent is to make sure that you take control of these unwind processes and make them orderly. And I think that’s what they’re doing. And so if you can do that, then you can avoid more blow-ups and unforeseen issues in the property sector. And, you can avoid some of the collateral damage.

“So, I think we’re closer to the end of this wind-up cycle than the beginning, provided that policymakers do what the market actually wants them to do, which is obviously stimulate growth and support the property sector and it looks to me they’re doing that.”

RAYMOND CHENG, HEAD OF CHINA RESEARCH, CGS-CIMB SECURITIES, HONG KONG

“The liquidation order will be negative for Evergrande itself for sure, the assigned liquidator will offload the company assets as soon as possible, and the price may be very bad.

“It might affect sector sentiment in the short term, but Evergrande’s restructuring has its own specific problems. It is possible that other developers will be willing to compromise more in negotiations as they fear creditors will be applying for liquidation.”

GARY NG, SENIOR ECONOMIST, NATIXIS

“It is not an end but the beginning of the prolonged process of liquidation, which will make Evergrande’s daily operations even harder. As most of Evergrande’s assets are in mainland China, there are uncertainties about how the creditors can seize the assets and the repayment rank of offshore bondholders, and situation can be even worse for shareholders. Investors will be concerned about whether there will be a snowball effect on other developers as the queue to liquidation is long.”

ANDREW COLLIER, MANAGING DIRECTOR, ORIENT CAPITAL RESEARCH, HONG KONG

“Evergrande’s liquidation is a sign that China is willing to go to extreme ends to quell the property bubble. This is good for the economy in the long term, but very difficult in the short term.”

WONG KOK HOONG, HEAD OF EQUITY SALES TRADING, MAYBANK, SINGAPORE

“The Hang Seng Property index still trading marginally higher. Evergrande (has been) ongoing for some time now, think investors have moved past this.”

MATT SIMPSON, SENIOR MARKET ANALYST, CITY INDEX, BRISBANE

“I think the bigger surprise here is that it took so long for Evergrande to be liquidated. Clearing out the deadwood should be seen as a positive, but I doubt it will boost confidence in the property sector on this news alone.”

KEN CHEUNG, CHIEF ASIAN FX STRATEGIST, MIZUHO, HONG KONG

“The markets are still focused on the property sector downturn in China, so I think they will evaluate if this liquidation or the events (will) pose any impact on the progress to fix the property sector in China, and how the Chinese government will make any arrangement due to this kind of court case impact.”

KENNY NG, SECURITIES STRATEGIST, CHINA EVERBRIGHT SECURITIES INTERNATIONAL COMPANY, HONG KONG

“This may further impact the confidence of mainland creditors and increase the difficulty of Evergrande’s restructuring in mainland China. At the same time, this may also affect investors’ confidence in the mainland real estate industry and the willingness of mainland residents to purchase properties. This has the potential to have a dampening effect on the economy and the capital market.

“Whether offshore creditors can apply for the sale of Evergrande’s assets in mainland China will depend on whether the mainland courts recognise or enforce the winding-up order from Hong Kong. If recognised or enforced, offshore creditors have a chance to claim for the assets in the mainland. Otherwise, they can only apply for the liquidation of assets in Hong Kong.”

BACKGROUND

* Evergrande defaulted on offshore debt in late 2021, becoming a symbol of the debt crisis that has engulfed China’s property sector.

* The world’s most indebted developer has around $300 billion of liabilities and $240 billion of assets.

* The liquidation petition was first filed in June 2022 by Top Shine, an investor in Evergrande unit Fangchebao which said the developer had failed to honour an agreement to repurchase shares it had bought in the subsidiary.

* Evergrande had been working on a $23 billion debt revamp plan for two years.

* Its original plan was scuppered in late September when it said its billionaire founder Hui Ka Yan was under investigation for suspected crimes.

* An ad hoc bondholder group had been siding with the developer in opposing the liquidation petition until the last hearing in early December.

Reporting by Reuters Asia bureaus, compiled and edited by Subhranshu Sahu

Source: Reuters

Coffee with MarkZ. 01/30/2024

Thank you MarkZ for all your time, and encouragement daily….. PDK

MarkZ  Update- Some highlights by PDK-Not verbatim

MarkZ Disclaimer: Please consider everything on this call as my opinion. People who take notes do not catch everything and its best to watch the video so that you get everything in context.  Be sure to consult a professional for any financial decisions

Member: Good Morning Mark and Mods and all y'all.

Member: Praying Mark has good news and today is the day we are waiting for!

Member: Does anybody else feel that the rate and everything else has been done for awhile?

MZ: I definitely feel the same way

Member:  International contracts with so many nations, the rate or must surely be known. Think about it.

MZ: Very quiet on the bond and banker chatter. 

Member: you said you had bond contacts that had NDAs. is this the first time this has happened in all these years?

Member: Been asking my bank about new currency and the RV and they have no clue. So weird that some banks do and some banks don’t. 

MZ: It totally depends on which banks have been tapped to be part of the process. They are keeping as many people in the dark as they can.  So if that particular bank has not been tapped for training and foreign currencies –they are not going to know.

Member: Been getting so much Chase and WF propaganda for wealth management in the mail. And has anyone else noticed the increase in Chase commercials for the same?

Member: Mark, I had a contact in management of a Wells Fargo in Dallas expecting something to happen February 5 for us we will see

MZ: If you got this info from actual banking people –do not hesitate to share it in chat.

MZ: More bank stories: “My mom went into Chase yesterday morning in Ohio. She asked if they did foreign currency exchanges. They said Yes….and wanted to know what kind of currencies. She told them all of her currencies which are the ones we like. The bank said “Bring them all in” 

Member: Should we also bring Bolivar with us?

MZ: I would bring them all… There is a 99% change that will be in the first basket. 

MZ: Back to the bank story from Canada we shared last night. I will reread it with more details. 

MZ: “My brother went to a Canadian Imperial bank of Commerce or CIBC in Saskatoon. Establishing his new bank account, the teller asked him if he had GIC’s or RSPS (?) But my brother said he had several devalued currencies  . Then he asked them if they were aware of the RV we are waiting on. She replied “Yes I am-I can’t say anything else as I am under an NDA from the bank “   So they cannot give details but they are ready. ” 

Member: The interesting thing is that Royal Bank and Bank of Nova Scotia in Canada is believed to be the participating banks in Canada . . Now we add CIBC

MZ: There was another story about a wealth manager who told their family members they should get some specific currencies….and that he is about to be under an NDA so cannot talk about them….but they should definitely get some.

MZ: There were a couple good Nader and MilitiaMan videos to start the day today. Make sure you go follow them and watch them.  MilitiaMan talks about all the progress Iraq has made. A good feel good video. 

MZ: Nader was talking about an article on the sanctions on Iraq. And Iran and the US. He talks about how the sanctions were to prevent the flow of dollars to Iran or terrorist organi zations. 

MZ: This should not affect our timing. This was not a blemish on Iraq- but a gold star….and should not affect our timing. 

Member: Should we open accounts at Wells Fargo or Chase ahead of the RV?

MZ: No, I was told by many that they will open a new account for all of us even if you have existing accounts already or not.   So, they will create new accounts for everybody to reflect our new balance and  special status. . 

MZ: To me this article could be about “preparation”  “Cash strapped Pakistan to roll out new currency nots of all denominations”  They are reprinting all of their bills with much better tech. This will allow them to remove counterfeit bills from the market.  The new bills will have more security features.  I find the timing interesting. 

MZ: The New USN’s over here we expect to be Treasury notes instead of Federal Reserve notes. We should have a limited time to turn in the old ones for new notes…..but the new ones should be nigh impossible to counterfeit. 

Member: I watched a video last night about Nostradamus predictions for this year, the year of the dragon. it was interesting how it lines up with financial things that could happen this year!

Member:  Let's say Thank you, God, that the RV is done & they're going to announce it ASAP. Thank you, Abba Father, for all the blessings that you'll give me so that I can bless your people& change their lives

Member:  Hope everyone is blessed with a wonderful day!

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BRICS vs G7 Iraq's Position #iqd Exchange Rate BY SANDY INGRAM

Experts: The Dollar Price Will Remain Volatile As Long As The Economy Is Not Stimulated, 30 JAN

 Experts: The Dollar Price Will Remain Volatile As Long As The Economy Is Not Stimulated

January 30, 2024 Last updated: January 30, 2024  The Independent/- Volatility has returned once again to dominate the dollar exchange rates on local stock exchanges in Iraq, after a period of “semi-stability” that dominated the market during the recent period.

The market witnessed a “limited” increase yesterday, Monday, as the exchange rate of the US dollar reached 154 Iraqi dinars compared to 100 dollars in Baghdad, and 153 dinars in Erbil in the Kurdistan Region.

Experts and specialists believe that what is happening is a temporary exploitation by some speculators who took advantage of the regional tensions in the region to benefit from buying and selling in the parallel market.

The Prime Minister’s Advisor for Financial and Economic Affairs, Dr. Mazhar Muhammad Saleh, said in an interview with Al-Sabah newspaper, which is affiliated with the Independent:

“The issue is related to regional security tensions, which give colorful or ambiguous information that affects the decisions of speculators in the secondary exchange market when buying and selling, which prompts them to hedge.” One or two points above the current market trading prices or trading prices in such cases that people are accustomed to.” He added: “

A behavior practiced by speculative forces to achieve emergency or fateful profits under the pretext of misfortune and fear,

because the decisions of this market are based on various information as inputs that influence the decisions of those dealing in it.

Therefore, these markets are considered among the most sensitive financial markets and live in their daily speculation on news, rumors, and conflicting information.” To determine prices, which is a cost that disappears when the influencer disappears.”

For his part, the rapporteur of the Parliamentary Finance Committee for the fourth session, Dr. Ahmed Al-Saffar, stated that

“the exchange rate of the dollar against the dinar will not stabilize as long as Iraq remains a country that does not have a productive apparatus, as the country depends for most of its needs on imports, which in turn depends mainly on the dollar.”. He stressed that

 “this price will remain fluctuating and changing according to political events and the forces of supply and demand.” He pointed out that

 “this small change during these two days may be due to the attack on the American base in Jordan and the threat of the American side to carry out a military operation,” and added:

“Therefore, the central bank and the government cannot control the stability of the exchange rate if they do not resort to revitalizing the Iraqi economy and moving the apparatus.” “Productive.”

For his part, economic affairs expert, Nabil Jabbar Al-Ali, pointed out that “there are now no major changes in exchange rates that could affect the market and its desires.” He pointed out that

 “what is happening now in the local market falls within the framework of the natural fluctuation of prices, and  there is not a large percentage of rise and fall that can be pointed out,  so I believe that the issue has not departed from the normal situation.”

Experts believe that stabilizing the dollar exchange rate in Iraq requires

     revitalizing the Iraqi economy,

     increasing production, and

     reducing dependence on imports.

https://mustaqila.com/خبراء-السعر-الدولار-سيبقى-متذبذباً-طا/

"USD WILL NOW DEFLATE AGAINST THE IQD" BY MIKECRISTO8, 30 JAN

 MikeCristo8

@MikeCristo8

I told you the Iraqi Dinar RV is going live.

The U.S. Dollar will now massively deflate against the Iraqi Dinar.

Offshore short-term deposits and foreign exchange positions in dollars, the total of $127.7 trillion is 175 times the foreign currencies held by US residents, available to absorb foreign dollar liquidation.

This imbalance between foreign ownership of dollars and the availability of foreign currencies in US hands to absorb foreign dollar liquidation is simply staggering in its potential impact on the dollar.

Foreign Ministry's Major Announcement Success in Iraqi-American Negotiat...

Military(Iraqi) expert: America will not leave Iraq without a long-term security agreement, 30 JAN

 Military expert Sarmad Al-Bayati confirmed the impossibility of the withdrawal of American forces without concluding a strategic security agreement with Iraq, noting that the Iraqi airspace is exposed and America can never leave it without sovereignty.

 The Iraqi military expert, Sarmad Al-Bayati, said in a statement followed by Mawazine News: “There is a big difference in the statements between Iraq and the United States, and some may be confused about what is happening, despite what was announced about the formation of an American-Iraqi military committee to sit with the international coalition.” ".

Al-Bayati added: “But those sitting on the Iraqi side in this committee are figures who have nothing to do with the issue of the withdrawal of coalition forces, including the Federal Police, whose work is linked to NATO, so they focused in the meeting on assessing the threat of ISIS and operational training, in addition to the most important One point, which is to strengthen Iraqi armed capabilities.”

The military expert stressed that "it is impossible for any withdrawal of international coalition forces to take place if the strengthening of armed capabilities and control of Iraqi airspace is not completed. Therefore, cooperation continues with the coalition, and even if a withdrawal occurs, the American forces will take a long time on this matter."

Al-Bayati stressed, "The American forces will not leave Iraqi airspace uncontrollably, so there will certainly be a strong security agreement between Baghdad, Washington, and the international coalition, and it is not easy to leave Iraq an easy prey for ISIS."
The Iraqi expert explained, "The Americans actually work in Iraqi military bases as advisors, but there are other forces to protect them, and thus their secrets and policies in the region remain with them. It is not easy to know their true number in Iraq, because they do not give their combat position to any party."

Al-Bayati ruled out that there would be any forced exit of the international coalition forces from Iraq, because the matter would have a negative impact on the entire country. Therefore, no forced evacuation of them would occur, but rather after assessing the situation regarding the extent of the threat and danger of ISIS.

American forces returned to Iraq in 2014 as part of the international coalition forces, at the request of the Iraqi government to support them in confronting ISIS, which invaded a large part of the lands in the north and west after the collapse of the Iraqi army units. link

🚨Iraq HCL Done & Completed!!! BY REINALDO JC, 22 NOV

  Reinaldo JC @SmoothRey Iraq HCL Done & Completed!!! According to the Acting Minister, Erbil and Baghdad have now reached an agreemen...